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    Default Makeup for Flash Photography

    Nowadays, semua orang mempraktikkan selfie (it was Word of The Year two years ago!) dan semua produsen makeup berlomba-lomba mengeluarkan seri HD karena semua orang tiba-tiba butuh makeup yang akan terlihat bagus saat berfoto (…and those app developers who creates bajilion filters for Instagram)
    Kalau belum ada thread serupa, I'll open a new thread ya....

    Katanya sih… kalau ingin terlihat bagus saat berfoto menggunakan flash, gunakan HD makeup dan makeup tanpa SPF. Is it, though?

    SPF
    Sebetulnya hanya physical sunscreen a.k.a. sunblock a.k.a. titanium dioxide (TiO2) & zinc oxide (ZnO) yang menimbulkan efek whitecast pada flash photography. Physical sunscreens protect your skin by deflecting the sun rays.
    Chemical sunscreen kecil sekali kemungkinannya untuk memberikan efek whitecast ini. Kekurangannya chemical sunscreen ini terletak pada daya perlindungannya terhadap matahari yang tidak sekuat sunblock. Kadang beberapa orang juga alergi/sensitif terhadap chemical sunscreen.
    Jadi, bukan SPF yang menyebabkan tampilan whitecast di flash photo, tapi physical sunscreen.

    Shimma, shimma!
    Mica (that shimmery-thingy) juga memantulkan cahaya, which results in ghastly-pale appearance kalo pemakaiannya agak berlebihan, jadi jangan pakai foundation atau bedak yang terlalu bershimmer (go easy with your Météorites Hidden Content ). Matte-finish are the best for flash photography, because glowy/dewy-finish sometimes translates as oily on flash photography.

    Choose The Right Powder
    Mineral makeup (mengingat kandungan utamanya TiO2 & ZnO) & silica are notoriously bad for flash photography, seperti makeup mishap-nya para Hidden Content di red carpet yang terlihat cemong-cemong di foto.
    Jadi walaupun MUFE HD Microfinish Powder (100% silica) mengandung kata "High Definition" pada nama produknya, jangan langsung beranggapan ini aman untuk selfie menggunakan flash ya. As a matter of fact, HD makeup tidak selalu bagus untuk flash photography. Because it was supposed to be used in HD camera (mostly video), not flash photography. Contoh lainnya, Revlon Photoready Foundation. Too shimmery!
    The best powder untuk keperluan ini adalah bedak yang tidak mengandung physical sunscreen, low on silica dan mengandung pigment yang sesuai dengan warna kulit.

    Glitter
    As fab as it look, refrain your self from using glittery eyeshadow & blusher (I'm looking at you, NARS Super Orgasm).
    Salah-salah, glitter ini bisa terlihat seperti dead pixel di kamera digital.

    Taking Picture
    Selain makeup dan skincare, your photographer makes a great difference. Kalau fotografernya handal, dia bisa memotret wajah yang menggunakan sunblock sekalipun jadi lebih presentable. I'm not talking about photoshopping ya, tapi pengaturan cahaya saat pemotretan & angle.
    Foto indoor/outdor pada malam hari pun akan bagus kalau cahayanya cukup. And skilled photographer really know how to use their flash.
    Direct flash, jarak dekat, sudah pasti disastrous. Contohnya low light-selfie with flash, pasti tidak akan karu-karuan hasilnya kalau mengenakan sunblock. Apalagi kalau kulitnya sekitar NC35 & darker.... (I'm speaking from experience here Hidden Content )

    Speaking of medium to darker skin, saya tahu sekali kalau warna kulit tipe ini akan lebih mudah terlihat efek whitecast-nya. I'm not saying lighter-skinned girls tidak mengalami hal ini, tapi kami yang kulitnya medium & darker lebih sering mengalami ini.
    Ibaratnya warna putih akan lebih mudah terlihat di background yang gelap. Semakin gelap, semakin terlihatlah warna putih ini. It's all about the contrast.

    I know as an Asian yang setiap hari melihat iklan whitening skin di mana-mana, mungkin sebagian dari kita ingin memiliki kulit yang lebih putih karena they kinda told us that lighter skin are more desirable. But please, please, pleaseeee…, jangan termakan iklan dan berujung dengan membeli foundation/powder/concealer dengan warna yang lebih terang dari yang seharusnya! (Once a BA told me to buy their foundation that is comparable to NC30 on my NC42 skin so I can look 'lighter'! Hidden Content )
    You're not fooling anybody. Tidak hanya terlihat jelek di foto saja, you'll look ridiculously ashy in real life as well. We're sophisticated ladies here (kalau bukan, mana mungkin kenal FD Hidden Content ), be proud in your own skin (har har!). Coba saja ingat orang-orang kaukasia yang malah sampai ambil resiko dengan skin cancer supaya jadi tan? Embrace your natural skin color, choose the right color for your complexion.

    All in all, kalau bukan untuk selfie, pemotretan yang tidak menggunakan flash, berlokasi outdoor di siang hari (or not a low-light environment), dan bukan flash photo jarak dekat (direct flash), maka complexion products apa pun dapat digunakan asalkan shadenya tepat.

    Good luck finding your HG products to look good in HD! Hidden Content

    PS: Feel free to post your picture using flash (to prove your points). Refer to this Hidden Content as guidance.
    Skin color: Medium-dark, tan skin • Olive undertone • MAC NC42, Pantone Color IQ 3Y08-5Y09.
    Skin type: VERRRRYYY oily, quite prone to eczema/dehydration but not acne–prone.

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    Anywhooo…, sampe lupa mention produk apa aja yg bagus buat foto in low light pake flash, hehe Hidden Content

    These are my current faves…

    Liquid Foundation:
    Kat Von D Lock-It Tattoo Foundation
    Makeup Atelier Paris Waterproof Liquid Foundation

    Cream Foundation:
    Bobbi Brown Oil-Free Even Finish Compact Foundation (I think it's been reformulated? CMIIW)
    Kett Fix Crème

    Powder Foundation:
    Kat Von D Lock-It Powder Foundation

    Concealer:
    NARS Radiant Creamy Concealer

    Setting Product:
    Mally Beauty Evercolor Poreless Face Defender
    Skindinavia Bridal Makeup Finishing Spray

    FYI, my skin is VERRRYYYY OILY, mostly without dry patches, acne or pigmentation (but with horrible dark circleHidden Content ). HTH!
    Skin color: Medium-dark, tan skin • Olive undertone • MAC NC42, Pantone Color IQ 3Y08-5Y09.
    Skin type: VERRRRYYY oily, quite prone to eczema/dehydration but not acne–prone.

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    Default Re: Makeup for Flash Photography

    @Hidden Content wah post kamu lengkap deh, udah kayak beauty article hehe. Btw, untuk point sunscreen.. kalau terpaksa banget pakai physcial suncreen (karena tidak ada option lain) dan photographernya amatir alias difotoin temen, so ada trik makeup lain kah untuk nge cover si physical sunscreen? like ditimpa foundie/powder lebih gelap?

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    @Hidden Content
    waw baca thread ini jadi makin mantep pengen nyobain kat von d.
    seperti katamu, ak kadang suka baca ingredients makeup buat ngeliat kandungan physical sunscreennya. pas nulis post ini blm keinget sih apa aja makeup dirumah yg bikin white cast, soalnya jarang foto flash jg.
    cuma inget 1 nama yaitu viva two way cake hihihi ampun deh itu bikin macem topeng banget, ak waktu itu cuma pengen nyoba aja karna murah, kalo ok kan lumayan, ternyata jelek. langsung dibuang hehe

    btw chemical sunscreen itu semacem apa ya?

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    Hiii, just wanna share some of product that I love for flash photography
    - Kat Von D Lock It Tatto Foundation in Medium 57
    - Cover FX Cream Concealer *current hg, replacing my nars radiant creamy concealer
    - Urban Decay Naked Skin Loose Powder in Medium-Dark
    They looks good on photography, indoor, outdoor, day or night
    No ashy or whitecast, btw I'm mac NC40-42, super oily skin

    Mengenai sunscreen
    Physical sunscreen, such as titanium dioxide, zinc oxide bekerja dengan memantulkan sinar matahari yang kena ke kulit sehingga menimbulkan efek whitecast. Mostly sunscreen yang beredar di pasaran mengandung titanium dioxide ato zinc oxide. Physical sunscreen lebih bagus utk dipakai daily karena tidak merusak kulit
    Chemical sunscreen, such as octinoxate, berkerja dengan cara menyerap sinar matahari. Chemical sunscreen lebih bagus utk coverage sinar mataharinya dan bekerja efektif 20 menit setelah pemakaian, tapi memproduksi banyak radikal bebas yang merusak kulit, membuat iritasi dan aging. Oleh karena itu belum banyak jenis chemical sunscreen yg beredar di pasaran karena belum di approve FDA dan sebaiknya tidak dipakai daily. Contoh chemical sunscreen yang gampang dicari: Shiseido Suncare Extra Smooth Sun Protection lotion SPF 38 : mengandung 7.4% octinoxate
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    Ada juga jenis sunscreen kombinasi seperti
    Elta MD UV Clear SPF46: Zinc Oxide (9%), Octinoxate (7.5%)
    tapi saya belum tahu mengenai whitecast atau tidaknya sunscreen jenis kombinasi *karena belom pernah coba
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    *bu mod maaf oot soal sunscreen*

    @Hidden Content
    emang bener kalo medium tan cenderung gampang ashy, jadi harus selektif milih produknya
    titanium dioxide sedikit pun bakal kliatan white cast *I'm looking at you ELDW
    haha
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    @Hidden Content sesama kulit berminyak parah i feel you!!

    I actually wore lots of product for flash photography (not video) particularly when there's wedding event indoor at night. Sejauh ini sih aku ga pernah dapet whitecast, meskipun pake flash hp, digital camera, amateur photographer - you name it. And this is the list of product i usually wear:

    Base :
    Biore UV perfect face milk spf 50
    Lorac porefection

    Corrector :
    BH cosmetics corrector & concealer palette in medium (i use the orange color for my dark circle & red color for my redness) mixed with a drop of Tarte Maracuja Oil.

    Foundation :
    Bobbi brown Long wear even finish foundation (it also has a spf 15) also mixed with a drop of Tarte Maracuja Oil

    Concealer :
    EM Cosmetics the great cover up

    Contouring concealer :
    LA Girl HD concealer in shade

    Setting powder :
    Ben nye banana for concealer (brush sprayed with skindinavia oil-free)
    Matte bronzer to set my concealer contour

    Kalo mau touch up karna minyaknya udh keluar, i will use my dior forever extreme compact powder (also has an spf on it). I never wore a highlighter, and i tend to avoid a gliterry shimmery anything on my complexion, except for eyes.

    Sejauh ini dgn rute makeup seperti itu ga pernah terlihat adanya bedak putih di foto2ku Hidden Content

    I will post my pic on monday i think, soalnya ada kawinan hari sabtu Hidden Content

    Oh yaa i'm MAC NC 20 - 25 Hidden Content

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    @Hidden Content , Sebenernya agak tricky sih… soalnya TiO2 ini kan nggak kayak pigment iron oxide (FeO), jadi walaupun mungkin warna putihnya TiO2 bisa "dicampur" sama FeO, begitu kena cahaya dia bakal tetep mantulin warna putih aslinya seperti yang seharusnya as a sun/light blocker. Mungkin bisa kali ya kalo foundie yg nutupin sunscreen-nya itu heavy coverage banget. Mungkin….
    Atau nggak, fotonya aja agak jauhan dari kamera biar flashnya nggak terlalu harsh kena muka. Paling nanti dizoom & dicrop deh biar lebih keliatan close up. Dulu pernah baca alternatif lainnya yaitu flashnya ditutup 1 ply–tissue atau kertas kalkir gitu supaya cahayanya nggak terlalu bright. But seriously though, Hidden Content Hidden Content

    @Hidden Content ,
    Hidden Content ya list chemical sunscreen-nya…
    Perlu diingat kalo kadang chemical sunscreen bisa triggering sensitivity/allergic reaction yg berbeda di kulit tiap orang ya Hidden Content
    Pembahasan lebih lanjut mending ke thread sunscreen aja kali ya, biar nggak double post….

    @Hidden Content , hey, skintone kita samaan! Hidden Content
    Pake M54 pas ya di kamu? Aku pake M62 di liquid foundienya rada orange, kalo powdernya M57 agak sedikit keterangan kalo baru dipake, tapi sekitar 15-20 mnt kemudian jadi pas sih…. Agak parno mau ambil liquidnya yg M57, takut keterangan juga.
    Kamu di Cover FX Cream Concealer pake shade yg mana? Mau dong contekannya….

    @Hidden Content , hmmm… perhaps karena kulitmu masih di NC20-25 kali ya? Jadi efek putihnya si sunblock masih tolerable? Hidden Content
    Ditunggu FOTD-nya ya! Hidden Content
    Skin color: Medium-dark, tan skin • Olive undertone • MAC NC42, Pantone Color IQ 3Y08-5Y09.
    Skin type: VERRRRYYY oily, quite prone to eczema/dehydration but not acne–prone.

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    Hidden Content
    haiii, senangnya ketemu yang temen yang skintonenya sama, kadang aku juga nyontek post acid terutama soal lipstick hihi
    sebenernya kat von d ini agak tricky,
    setelah aku cek lagi ternyata aku pake M57 bukan M54
    M57 ini agak ashy di aku, kurang kuning dikit kalo dibanding ELDW 3W2
    Anyway, Cover FX Cream Concealer, aku pake shade G-Medium
    Cover fx ini packed with lots of pigment, jadi pake seujung jarum aja udah cover dark circle sekaligus highlight. mirip Shiseido UV Protective & Sun Protection Liquid Foundation SPF42 PA+++ cuma versi concealernya
    trusss tanya lagi dong, kalo pake Skindinavia Bridal Makeup Finishing Spray, hasilnya matte ato dewy say? soalnya baca di thread sebelah kalo seri bridal ini finishingnya dewy

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    Buat yang nyari fouundation drugstore yang no spf, ternyata Maybelline Fit Me! Matte and Poreless nggak ada spfnya (tapi yang varian dewy ada spf 18), dan menurut Hidden Content lulus tes foto dengan flash tanpa whitecast.
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    Threadnya sepiii btw ada yang pake foundie MUFE Ultra HD bagus ya buat di foto?
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