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    ncelz hehehe... Cerita dong keluguan OB-nya? Dia ngomong apa? pasti lucu deh. (_noir mulai kepo nih) Hidden Content

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    Dulu yg aku tau atasanku klo abis interview org suka ditandain gitu kertasnya : klo cantik ditulis FO --> face oke, klo biasa aja ngga ditulis, dan iya sih yg mostly dipanggil adalah yg ada tulisannya FO hehe. Klo menurut aku wajar krn emang kerjanya di bidang pelayanan umum (frontline)...klo yg backoffice faktor FO td ga terlalu diperhatiin..tp in the end face oke not related wit performance & penilaian kerja dr atasan ko...

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    noir, hehehe lugu nya kadang minta di gaplok. Hidden Content
    dulu gw sering tuh dandan lengkap tiap ke kantor (bedak-blush-eyeliner-eyeshadow), nah uda sore kan uda kucel, tp eyeliner masih ada.. tiba2 aja dia ngomong "mbak dandannya menor amat sih.." langsung gw ngaca, biasa aja padahal.. hahaha
    ya karena di kantor ga ada yg dandan jg sih jd keliatan yg beda sendiri Hidden Content

    kalo dr pakaian sih ga pada heboh secara masih boleh nge jeans dan pake kaos di kantor..kalo gw pake rok aja baru deh diceletukin lagi hahaha

    anjani, iya sih wajar kalo frontline jg nilai fisik, apalagi kaya marketing gitu..
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    sleepyeauty & ncelz :
    ember...lucu kan istri bos gw...thn awal gw dikantor itu menderita bgt, soalnya tiap hari pasti ada aja kesalahan kerja gw. Sampe yang paling lucu & masih gw inget sampe sekarang, waktu gw disuruh buat surat, udah sangking ga ada kesalahan akhirnya ttp gw disuruh revisi tuh surat dengan alasan sehabis titik harus dua spasi, bukan satu spasi...
    untungnya skrg udah ga kayak gitu lagi...

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    Bidang kerja gw kosmetik skin care dan jabatan gw di div. PR dan Marketing Strategic pas di Jkt, jd wajar aja gw dandan secara bidangnya aja skin care dan jabatan gw pun kebanyakan ktemu org buat ngeluasin market.

    Tp awal gw balik dr UK dan mulai ngerintis karir lg di Indo (sblm S2 gw kerja jd graphic designer, pas di UK jd lebih branding) udh diwanti2 bokap. Even gw di bagian yg membolehkan tampil ke ktr tp jgn smpe kelakuan bikin org sebel.. Contohnya teplak teplok pake high heels keliling ktr, lama2 di kmr mandi buat dandan dsb..

    Nah mslh teplak teplok tuh gw keinget bgt smpe skrg gw kerja di general management NGO, dimana yg kerja umurnya min. 35 ke atas.. Makin mengkeret gw dibanding ktr di Jkt hehe.. Minggu pertama kerja gw cari tau dulu, ooh bos gw jaketnya Michael Kors, sepatunya Versace, ooh si anu suka pake heels 7cm. Begitu gw liat keadaan aman, br deh gw bergaya ke ktr hehe..

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    Kalo yang cantik lebih cepat naik jabatan atau gaji atau apa sih ngga tau juga ya. Tapi karena lingkungan kerja mayoritas cowo (terutama yang managerial) dari kantor yang lama dan kantor yang sekarang, yang berasa sih gue kayak "dipermudah" jalannya.

    Maksudnya ya banyak yang bantu, lebih dimaklumin kalo ngelakuin kesalahan (ngga dimarahin sampe kayak gimana), kalo lagi ngomel masalah kerjaan (namanya cewe kan suka merepet gitu Hidden Content ) juga lebih dimaklumin, mereka lebih ngalah, dll. Itu karena lebih banyak cowo daripada cewe ya namanya juga kantor lama itu bergerak di bidang transportasi.

    Kalo di kantor sekarang, level managerialnya kebanyakan cowo di usia 40an. Bosnya sendiri sih masih muda (dan galak pisan). Untungnya sampe sekarang belum pernah dimarahin sih gue (dan jangan sampe) tapi sering ngeliat orang lain dimarahin sampe parah gitu Hidden Content

    Sampe pada bilang si bos lunak bener sama gue. Terus malah ada GM yang kalo gue ikut meeting pake jaket tebel, rambut diuwel-uwel ke atas langsung bilang "wah, kamu gimana kok gitu bajunya, si bos bakal marah-marah deh."
    Intinya, mereka ngumpanin gue biar si bos kaga marah-marah kalo lagi meeting jadi gue harus senantiasa "tampil" Hidden Content

    Gue sendiri sih walaupun merasa termasuk average dan ngga fashionable tapi ngga tau kenapa orang kantor suka nyebelin deh yang cewe-cewe Hidden Content
    Mulai dari baju, tas, jam tangan, eyeliner (yang jarang banget dipake), kutex sampe softlens yang gue pake dikomenin, ditanyain harganya atau diblg "baju/tas/etc baru yaaa?".. sebeeeellll.. Hidden Content Hidden Content
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    Topiknya lucuu Hidden Content
    Kantor gw ga terlalu dandan, bahkan ga ngewajibin pake blazer *yes!
    Tp ya konsekuensinya pake high heels dikomen, pake baju agak formal banget dikomentarin, dsb.
    Gw pernah pake eyeliner cair (Gosh! Eyeliner doang), comel dah tu para OB. Hidden Content
    Gw pertama kali ngantor kan pake high heel. Dikomenin dah sama ibu2 di sini. Eh ga lama kemudian pd ngikut2 pake high heel dan agak dandan gt ngantornya Hidden Content

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    klo kantor gue .. khususnya unit gue..mayoritas cowok 20 persen cewek,,dan gue termasuk orang yang dandan,, walau tidak berlebihan,, but temen2 bilang si gue paling modis bgt,,jujur dgn lingkungan yg seperti itu kemungkinan cowok utuk mendekati atau ngajak selingkuh banyak loh,, tapi itu kan gimana caranya kita ajah,kalo kita nanggepin dan sikap kita keganjenan,, ya selamat deh cewek2 bakal sebel bel , selama kita dandan hanya untuk kepuasan diri kita karena kita suka its ok,, cuman kalo ada tujuan lain,, ya tinggal tunggu waktu ajah,, yang namanya pamrih suatu saat keliatan,untung gue walo kata org modis etc,, pembawaan gue cuek bebek,, nggak harus dibuat2 kayak syahrini hehhe,,, malah membuat cewek2 lain terinspirasi seneng bgt gue,, tp mang bukan ga mungkin lah 1 atau 2 orang syirik,, yah itu deritanya,, gue sih cuek aja,,gue kerja an gue perlihatkan hasil kerja gue dgn baik,dan gue dedikasikan bukan untuk bos aja,, tapi juga buat kepuasan gue, buat rekan2 kerja gue n hasilnya so far bos percaya ma gue,, tapi hubungan gue sama temen2 baik2 aja,, dan menurut gue dikantor gue tidak ada korelasi antara tampil modis, cantik dan promosi Hidden Content yang penting kita punya kompetensi...

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    _noir, ini jaman kuliah waktu riset di PT. Pupuk Kujang, jadi masih masuk dikit lah yaaa cerita gw ga oot2 amat..

    waktu itu kami sahabat bertiga riset disana, nah.. gw ma temen gw X mudaaaah amat dapet data, pembimbing yg di company itu jg sangat membantu, malah jatohnya kita tuh manja.. bukannya kita yg ngejar2 atau nungguin pembimbing malah pembimbing-nya yg manggil suruh masuk ruangannya, padahal kadang kita cuman yg nemenin temen Y yg mau ambil data/wawancara sama pembimbingnya dia..

    trus pas gw ma X udah selesai, temen gw Y masih belum dan susaaah ketemu pembimbing, gw sibuk celoteh ngebesarin hati dia, nasehatin sabar dll, eh temen gw Y ini ngomong lirih : gw ga secantik elo dan X..

    itu aja dia ngomong, dia ga nangis sih tapi itu bikin gw terdiam.. ko dia mikirnya sampe kesana ?

    kalo skrg ditempat kerja, kalo gw dandan rapih rekan kerja yg cowo seneng, tapi kalo gw asal2an suka nge-gerutu.. pernah ngomong gini sih : gw gapapa cape kerja asal kalo masuk kantor ada yg bisa diliatin Hidden Content

    mungkin intinya yg namanya manusia, persis pepatah : selera condong ke yang enak, mata condong ke yg cantik..

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    i quote a couple of related studies/articles ya, di bawah, from ny times dan the economist.

    Hidden Content
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    Up the Career Ladder, Lipstick In Hand

    By Hidden Content

    WANT more respect, trust and affection from your co-workers?
    Wearing makeup — but not gobs of Gaga-conspicuous makeup — apparently can help. It increases people’s perceptions of a woman’s likability, her competence and (provided she does not overdo it) her trustworthiness, according to a new study, which also confirmed what is obvious: that cosmetics boost a woman’s attractiveness.
    It has long been known that symmetrical faces are considered more comely, and that people assume that handsome folks are intelligent and good. There is also some evidence that women feel more confident when wearing makeup, a kind of placebo effect, said Nancy Etcoff, the study’s lead author and an assistant clinical professor of psychology at Harvard University (yes, scholars there study eyeshadow as well as Hidden Content ). But no research, till now, has given makeup credit for people inferring that a woman was capable, reliable and amiable.
    The Hidden Content was paid for by Procter & Gamble, which sells CoverGirl and Dolce & Gabbana makeup, but researchers like Professor Etcoff and others from Hidden Content and the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute were responsible for its design and execution.
    The study’s 25 female subjects, aged 20 to 50 and white, African-American and Hispanic, were photographed barefaced and in three looks that researchers called natural, professional and glamorous. They were not allowed to look in a mirror, lest their feelings about the way they looked affect observers’ impressions.
    One hundred forty-nine adults (including 61 men) judged the pictures for 250 milliseconds each, enough time to make a snap judgment. Then 119 different adults (including 30 men) were given unlimited time to look at the same faces.
    The participants judged women made up in varying intensities of luminance contrast (fancy words for how much eyes and lips stand out compared with skin) as more competent than barefaced women, whether they had a quick glance or a longer inspection.
    “I’m a little surprised that the relationship held for even the glamour look,” said Richard Russell, an assistant professor of psychology at Gettysburg College in Gettysburg, Pa. “If I call to mind a heavily competent woman like, say, Hillary Clinton, I don’t think of a lot of makeup. Then again, she’s often onstage so for all I know she is wearing a lot.”
    However, the glamour look wasn’t all roses.
    “If you wear a glam look, you should know you look very attractive” at quick glance, said Professor Etcoff, the author of “Survival of the Prettiest” (Doubleday, 1999), which argued that the pursuit of beauty is a biological as well as a cultural imperative. But over time, “there may be a lowering of trust, so if you are in a situation where you need to be a trusted source, perhaps you should choose a different look.”
    Just as boardroom attire differs from what you would wear to a nightclub, so can makeup be chosen strategically depending on the agenda.
    “There are times when you want to give a powerful ‘I’m in charge here’ kind of impression, and women shouldn’t be afraid to do that,” by, say, using a deeper lip color that could look shiny, increasing luminosity, said Sarah Vickery, another author of the study and a Procter & Gamble scientist. “Other times you want to give off a more balanced, more collaborative appeal.”
    In that case, she suggested, opt for lip tones that are light to moderate in color saturation, providing contrast to facial skin, but not being too glossy.
    But some women did not view the study’s findings as progress.
    “I don’t wear makeup, nor do I wish to spend 20 minutes applying it,” said Deborah Rhode, a law professor at Stanford University who wrote “The Beauty Bias” (Oxford University Press, 2010), which details how appearance unjustly affects some workers. “The quality of my teaching shouldn’t depend on the color of my lipstick or whether I’ve got mascara on.”
    She is no “beauty basher,” she said. “I’m against our preoccupation, and how judgments about attractiveness spill over into judgments about competence and job performance. We like individuals in the job market to be judged on the basis of competence, not cosmetics.”
    But Professor Etcoff argued that there has been a cultural shift in ideas about self adornment, including makeup. “Twenty or 30 years ago, if you got dressed up, it was simply to please men, or it was something you were doing because society demands it,” she said. “Women and feminists today see this is their own choice, and it may be an effective tool.”
    Dr. Vickery, whose Ph.D. is in chemistry, added that cosmetics “can significantly change how people see you, how smart people think you are on first impression, or how warm and approachable, and that look is completely within a woman’s control, when there are so many things you cannot control.”
    Bobbi Brown, the founder of her namesake cosmetics line, suggested that focusing on others’ perceptions misses the point of what makes makeup powerful.
    “We are able to transform ourselves, not only how we are perceived, but how we feel,” she said.
    Ms. Brown also said that the wrong color on a subject may have caused some testers to conclude that women with high-contrasting makeup were more “untrustworthy.” “People will have a bad reaction if it’s not the right color, not the right texture, or if the makeup is not enhancing your natural beauty,” she said.
    Daniel Hamermesh, an economics professor at the University of Texas at Austin, said the conclusion that makeup makes women look more likable — or more socially cooperative — made sense to him because “we conflate looks and a willingness to take care of yourself with a willingness to take care of people.”
    Professor Hamermesh, the author of “Beauty Pays” (Princeton University Press, 2011), which lays out the leg-up the beautiful get, said he wished that good-looking people were not treated differently, but said he was a realist.
    “Like any other thing that society rewards, people will take advantage of it,” he said of makeup’s benefits. “I’m an economist, so I say, why not? But I wish society didn’t reward this. I think we’d be a fairer world if beauty were not rewarded, but it is.”

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    Hidden Content
    economics of good looks

    The line of beauty

    Pretty people still get the best deals in the market, from labour to love

    Aug 27th 2011 | from the print edition
    Beauty Pays: Why Attractive People are More Successful. By Daniel Hamermesh. Princeton University Press; 216 pages; $24.95 and £16.95.
    The Beauty Bias: The Injustice of Appearance in Life and Law. By Deborah Rhode. Oxford University Press USA; 272 pages; $17.95 and £15.99.
    Honey Money: The Power of Erotic Capital. By Catherine Hakim. Allen Lane; 304 pages; £20. To be published in America in September as “Erotic Capital: The Power of Attraction in the Boardroom and the Bedroom” by Basic Books; $26.

    FRANCE looked back this week at the 1911 theft of the Mona Lisa from the walls of the Louvre. It was one of the most startling art heists in history, but the emotions it still arouses go beyond that. Stealing Leonardo da Vinci’s painting was like stealing beauty itself. And beauty has lost none of its power to bewitch, bother and get its own way, as three new books on the economic advantages of good looks confirm.
    Physically attractive women and men earn more than average-looking ones, and very plain people earn less. In the labour market as a whole (though not, for example, in astrophysics), looks have a bigger impact on earnings than education, though intelligence—mercifully enough— is valued more highly still.
    Beauty is naturally rewarded in jobs where physical attractiveness would seem to matter, such as prostitution, entertainment, customer service and so on. But it also yields rewards in unexpected fields. Homely NFL quarterbacks earn less than their comelier counterparts, despite identical yards passed and years in the league. Not everything comes easier: good-looking women seeking high-flying jobs in particularly male fields may be stymied by the “bimbo effect” until they prove their competence and commitment. But the importance of beauty in the labour market is far more pervasive than one might think.
    The same is true in other markets. Women have traditionally traded looks for economic support in marriage. A Chinese study confirms that the husbands of unappealing women earn about 10% less than those of their dishier counterparts. Attractive people also have an easier time getting a loan than plain folks, even as they are less likely to pay it back. They receive milder prison sentences and higher damages in simulated legal proceedings. In America more people say they have felt discriminated against for their appearance than because of their age, race or ethnicity. Pretty people, it seems, have all the luck. These books attempt to explain why that is, and what, if anything, should be done about it.
    Daniel Hamermesh, an economist at the University of Texas, has long written about “pulchronomics”. In “Beauty Pays” he reckons that, over a lifetime and assuming today’s mean wages, a handsome worker in America might on average make $230,000 more than a very plain one. There is evidence that attractive workers bring in more business, so it often makes sense for firms to hire them. Whether rewarding them accordingly—and paying their less attractive peers more stingily—is good for society is another matter.
    In examining the case for legal protection for the ugly, Mr Hamermesh relies to a degree on the work of Deborah Rhode, a law professor at Stanford University and author of “The Beauty Bias”. Ms Rhode clearly struggles to see why any woman would willingly embrace fashion (particularly high heels). She is outraged that virtually all females consider their looks as key to their self-image. She cites a survey in which over half of young women said they would prefer to be hit by a truck than be fat. Her indignation is mostly moral. Billions of dollars are now spent on cosmetic surgery—up to 90% of it by women—at a time when almost a fifth of Americans lack basic health care. The more women focus on improving their looks, Ms Rhode argues, the less they think about others.
    Discriminating against people on the grounds of personal appearance should be banned, she says. It limits a person’s right to equal opportunity, reinforces the subordination of groups where unappealing characteristics, including obesity, are concentrated (ie, the poor, some ethnic minorities), and restricts self-expression. Yet because ugliness is harder to define than race or sex, some argue that anti-discrimination laws are impossible to maintain. And anyway, say employers, appearance is often relevant to the job at hand.
    Ms Rhode sees the hurdles, but argues that they can be dealt with. In places where “lookism” is already prohibited (eg, Washington, DC), such statutes have not provoked a flood of frivolous cases, she says. Occasionally beauty is essential to a business (ie, modelling, but not air-hostessing). But concerns about an employee’s effectiveness often reflect the biases of employers, not customers. Laws influence attitudes over time, she says, by denying those with prejudices the opportunity to indulge them.
    “Honey Money”, Catherine Hakim’s provocative book, is a different kettle of fish. Where Mr Hamermesh and Ms Rhode see discrimination, she sees an opportunity for women to enhance their power “in the bedroom and the boardroom”. She argues that “erotic capital” is an underrated class of personal asset, to set beside economic capital (what you have), human capital (what you know) and social capital (who you know). Ms Hakim attempts to quantify a complex mix of physical and social assets, consisting of beauty, sex appeal, self-presentation, social skills, liveliness and sexual competence. Like other sorts of capital, the erotic kind is important for success; but unlike others it is largely independent of birth and class. It is especially valuable for poor people, young people, the newly arrived and the otherwise unqualified. In heterosexual settings it belongs primarily to women.
    Ms Hakim suggests that women have more erotic capital than men to start with, mainly because they have had to work at it for centuries. But women have the erotic upper hand for another reason: the male “sexual deficit”. Despite the fact that both sexes are more sexually active than ever before, from the age of about 30 women’s libido tends to fall off while men’s does not. Because women have less interest in sex than men, it is, to put it crudely, a seller’s market. In the power dynamic of couples, controlling access to sex is more important than earning more money, says Ms Hakim. It is the woman’s main bargaining chip, as most still earn less than their partners. Feminists who want women to throw away their femininity are overlooking a powerful asset, Ms Hakim argues.
    This is controversial stuff. Even those who reject the notion that women are just not that into sex can support Ms Hakim’s call for the full legalisation of prostitution and surrogate pregnancies for profit, thus giving women the freedom to earn a return on whichever personal asset they choose.
    All three authors are in or fast approaching their 60s. They are contemporaries of the generation of feminists who waged war against the beauty culture, leaving unshaved legs and allegedly burned bras in their wake. But life has moved on. Sexualised images are everywhere, and the world that has emerged is one in which no one can afford to pretend beauty does not matter. Men too, having lost their monopoly of well-paid jobs, are investing in their erotic capital to enhance their appeal to mates and employers. They are marching off to gyms and discovering face cream in record numbers. Perhaps this explains Mona Lisa’s bemused smile. She knew what was coming.

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    Klo buat gue cantik di dunia kerja itu, gimana cara kita bisa berpenampilan sepantasnya dan gimana kita bisa nempatin diri di lingkungan kerja aja sih. Karena cantik itu ga jadi yg utama ya klo di kantor, gimana2 yg paling utama ya potensi n kemampuan.
    Dandan simple aja, pake baju yg sopan, klo lg mood kadang gue juga niat bgt sih mix n match in baju
    Pake aksesoris ini dan itu, tapi somehow juga klo lg buru2 malah polosan bgt ke kantor..
    Gue sih suka kesel ama aturan yg gue rasa dibikin ama senior gue di kantor, yg mnrt dia hrs ke kantor dengan atasan berkerah. Sedangkan mnrt gue asal gue pake atasan atau dress formal, ga kaos udh cukup donk, ngakalinnya, gue pasti taro 1 blazer ngegantung di kursi kantor gue Hidden Content

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    Bodyshop, hoho kalau cerita yg begini inget jaman kuliah

    Ada 1 dosen killer banget, ngajar sejarah dan kasih tugasnya susaaah
    Dan kalau asistensi ke dia hrs berkali-kali.
    Dijanjiin 3x asistensi minimal dapet B

    Nah ada temen ku emang cantik biar ga dandan. Dia yg ada dipanggilin terus sama dosennya, asistensi cm sebentar, dan malah dibantuin cr bahan. Bisa ditebak nilai dia paling bagus
    Sedangkan yg lain cuma C dan D

    Blm denger kabar lagi dia kerja dimana Hidden Content

    Aku sekarang mungkin jarang make up, tp seneng sendiri kalau bisa mix n match baju. Buat kepuasan pribadi aja

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    topik yg menyenangkan, aku juga pernah baca penelitian seperti itu
    sayangnya, aku belum kerja

    Tapi di kampus, ada temenku yg emang asli cantik banget
    Gak dandan aja cantiknya udah mencorong gitu, ini dia seneng dandan. Tambah menarik perhatian deh
    Dan menurutku, dia menyadari kecantikannya dan menyadari bahwa orang-orang di sekitarnya memperlakukan dia secara istimewa karena dia cantik.
    Temenku cewek-cewek yg lain, agak gak suka sama dia karena mereka menganggap si cantik itu sering memanfaatkan orang terutama cowok. Tugas-tugas gampang kelar karena banyak bala bantuan Hidden Content

    Sementara aku sendiri sih cuek. Si cantik itu mau ngapa-ngapain ya terserah dia asal gak mengganggu kehidupanku. Dan dia juga baik-baik aja sama aku.

    Mungkin orang yg cantik & ganteng memiliki tingkat kepercayaan diri yg bagus. Mereka berani dan supel.
    Jadi berani mengambil kesempatan, berani menciptakan kesempatan, berani membaca peluang.
    Selain fisik dan otak, kepribadian juga ikut menentukan

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    Default Re: Pretty Woman: Perempuan cantik di lingkungan kerja

    tapi kalo menurut gue sicantik saat masih kuliah dan dah kerja,, punya perlakuan berbeda deh,,, mungkin pada saat sekolah/kuliah dia mendapat perlakukan istimewa dari temen2/guru/dosen walau otaknya maaf oon dia masih punya tempat dan bisa manfaatin orang dgn bebas karena memang secara tidak langsung keoonan dia tidak berpengaruh langsung buat orang lain lebih ke dia ,, nah kalau dah kerja beda lah secantik apapun orang itu kalau kerjaannya ga beres ya nggak bisa punya tempat istimewa la wong dia merugikan lingkungan kerjaanya,dalam dunia kerja kan hasil kerja yang dibutuhkan, tapi kalaupun tetep ada yang excuse paling cuman sedikit perusahaan kayaknya

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