Thread: Skincare & Makeup Ingredients
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Jun 26, 2008, 11:14 PM #31
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Re: Skincare & Makeup INGREDIENTS
ada yang pernah denger ttg ngetes kandungan merkuri dalam bedak pake emas?
gw diajarin sodara gw, klo maw tau bedak mengandung merkuri apa ga, olesin bedaknya ke tangan, trus gosok bekas olesan itu pake emas (misalnya cincin deh). klo berubah warna, brarti ada kandungan merkurinya.
pas gw coba, emang ada bedak yg berubah warna n ada yg ngga. cuma ga pernah nemu pembuktiannya.
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Jun 27, 2008, 09:39 AM #32
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Re: Skincare & Makeup INGREDIENTS
setau gue itu hoax
soal aluminium starch octenylsuccinate yang gue liat:
Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is the aluminum salt of the reaction product of octenylsuccinic anhydride with starch. It is used in cosmetics at concentrations as high as 30% as an anticaking agent and a nonaqueous viscosity increasing agent. No information was available on the presence of impurities in the cosmetic-grade ingredient. When used in foods, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is identified as a modified food starch, and is subject to limitations on heavy metal residues. Oral studies using Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate or its related sodium salt produced no adverse systemic, reproductive, or developmental effects. Dermal injections produced no abnormal skin or systemic reactions in guinea pigs. Ocular toxicity was assessed in rabbits and using an in vitro test (chorioallantoic membrane vascular assay). In both cases no toxicity was seen. An acute inhalation toxicity study in rats was negative. Clinical tests indicated little irritation potential and no sensitization. Absent data on impurities in cosmetic-grade material, it was determined that such material should meet the same impurities requirements established for modified food starches. Based on these available data the Cosmetic Ingredient Review Expert Panel concluded that Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is safe as used in cosmetic formulations provided that established limitations imposed on heavy metal concentrations are not exceeded.
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Jun 27, 2008, 11:18 AM #33
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Re: Skincare & Makeup INGREDIENTS
Charmaine,
kulit kombinasi biasanya lbh berminyak di daerah T dan lebih kering di daerah U (lingkar dagu sampe pipi bagian bawah). biasanya ada produk yg sudah diformulasikan utk kulit kombinasi namun perlu kamu perhatikan lagi kombinasimu itu lebih ke cenderung kering atau cenderung berminyak atau ditambah jerawat. kalo yg ada jerawatnya kamu cari yg ada ingredient salicylic acid, ini zat asam utk mencegah dan menyembuhkan jerawat.Last edited by Elvi; Jun 27, 2008 at 05:05 PM.
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Jun 27, 2008, 11:32 AM #34
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Bungajeruk,
serum yg kamu pake itu disebutkan ingredientsnya collagen atau mempunya fungsi bisa memperbaiki collagen? collagen itu sebenarnya sudah terdapat dalam kulit yg fungsinya adalah sebagai struktur penopang kulit. zat yg bisa membantu memperbaiki collagen itu antara lain vit.b3, dan vit c sebagai antioxidan yg membantu mencegah kerusakan collagen. kalo collagen yg dipakai di luar kulit, itu mungkin fungsinya hanya untuk memperhalus permukaan kulit dari luar tp belum tentu (I don't think so as well Hidden Content ) memperbaiki collagen alami kulit dari dalam.Last edited by Elvi; Jun 30, 2008 at 11:32 AM.
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Jun 27, 2008, 08:10 PM #35
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jadi dia bisa masuk dan exfoliate sampe ke pori2
therefore, pori2 dan permukaan kulit jadi lebih bersih, potensi penyumbatan pori2 lebih kecil, so otomatis chance untuk terjadinya jerawat lebih kecil
bottomline: BHA membantu mencegah jerawat (penting banget malah), tapi untuk menyembuhkan jerawat, lebih baik dibantu juga dengan disinfektan kayak benzoyl peroxide (BP) products atau juga antibiotik bila dibutuhkan (clindamycin, erythromycin)
gak ada documented studies yang menyebutkan collagen yang dioleskan ke kulit bisa meresap dan menggantikan collagen di dalam kulit
sejauh yang gue tau, ukuran collagen terlalu besar untuk diserap kulit
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Jun 27, 2008, 09:29 PM #36
Re: Skincare & Makeup INGREDIENTS
aduh... baca thread ini jadi ngeri gw.... itu zat2 di halaman satu kan banyak ditemuin di kosmetik2 bukan? hiiiy syeram... kalo gini caranya gw udah kayak pecandu narkoba ajah Hidden Content udah tau jelek tapi tetep dipake.. hehe can't live without make-up!
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Jul 8, 2008, 05:04 PM #37
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Re: Anti-Aging Skincare and Treatment
fel, semua antioxidant kan gak boleh kena cahaya dan udara jeng
namanya juga antioxidant, anti oksidasi
oksidasi culprit nya siapa? yah oksigen
that's why produk yang mengandung antioxidant harus pake package yang opaque dan airtight untuk maintain antioxidant nya
kalo 2 syarat ini gak terpenuhi, antioxidant nya bakal rendered useless
makanya kalo produk anti-aging yang mengandung antioksidan tapi packaging nya gak memadai, yah kurang maksimal
notorious example: EL, and clinique too sometimes
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Jul 8, 2008, 10:59 PM #38
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mestinya kalo dah 2 thn cocok dong ya.., mungkin jd sensi krn neostrata digabung retinol. di gw gak ada efek apa2, krn gak digabung apa2 juga wkt make, jadinya tambah bagus engga, tambah jelek juga engga.., gak jelas hasilnya jd gw stop ajah d
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Jul 8, 2008, 11:02 PM #39
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jadi packaging yang memadai dari brand seperti apa crescentshadow ?
sama masalah serum vit. c...blum "nyangkut" nih.....
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Jul 9, 2008, 09:23 AM #40
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Re: Anti-Aging Skincare and Treatment
o gitu ya cres. nambah info banget nih.
berarti erha punya bagus dnk packagingnya. dia ada pump n tutup nya gitu..
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Jul 9, 2008, 09:28 AM #41
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Packaging yg baik utk produk yg mengandung aktioksidan: Botolnya dari kaca dan warnanya gelap (coklat tua atau hijau tua biasanya. Biru tua juga deng.)
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Jul 9, 2008, 10:20 AM #42
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soal stability vit c
terus terang gue juga bingung, apa maksut stability vitamin c
ada jenis2 vit c yang stable (magnesium ascorbyl phosphate, ascorbyl palmitate)
ada yang bilang stability berpengaruh di penyerapannya ke kulit, tapi gue gak tau bener ato enggak
yang jelas, dari yang gue baca2 sepertinya stability ini gak lantas memperbolehkan dia kena udara/cahaya
tetep aja dari yang gue baca, antioxidant tetep harus dipackage di packaging yang secure
gue lagi ga sempet nyari further reference sih, ada yang bisa bantu?
packaging seperti apa yang bagus, ya berarti harus opaque dan airtight
contoh serum yang mengandung antioxidant dan packaging nya bagus:
- TBS vit c serum yang di pump (lupa namanya)
- clinique advanced stop signs
- HABA WL (agak kurang opaque sih, tapi gue pernah baca kalo brown glass udah lumayan memadai, seperti kata suhu dundan)
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Jul 20, 2008, 11:35 AM #43
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Re: Skincare & Makeup INGREDIENTS
Ingredients to Avoid
10 of the worst cosmetic chemicals.
There are a lot of nasty cosmetic chemicals out there. Here is our list of 10 of the very worst. As a rule of thumb, if it’s really, really hard to pronounce, chances are it’s a noxious chemical you’d be wise to avoid.
Mixing chemicals is not great for you either. The truth is, we don’t know what secondary compounds and synergistic effects these chemical cocktails may generate. Better safe than sorry is our motto.
So, if you’re already a label reader, you’ll have no problem steering clear of the more toxic cosmetic chemicals out there. Please note that the ingredients below are listed in alphabetical order rather than by level of noxiousness.
BHA - toxic to the liver, immune, and reproductive systems; possible carcinogen.
BHT - toxic to the brain, nervous, and respiratory systems; possible carcinogen; endocrine disruptor.
D & C Colorants (Lakes) - toxic to the nervous and reproductive systems.
Eugenol - toxic to the immune and nervous systems; endocrine disruptor.
Formaldehyde - toxic to the immune and respiratory systems; carcinogen.
Nitrosamines - endocrine disruptor; possible carcinogen.
P-Phenylenediamine - toxic to the immune, respiratory, and nervous systems.
Parabens - endocrine disruptor; neurotoxin; possible carcinogen.
Phthalates - toxic to the immune, nervous, and reproductive systems.
Triethanolamine - toxic to the immune and respiratory systems; possible carcinogen.
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Jul 23, 2008, 10:15 PM #44
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Bok, cmiiw yah, tapi kalo kemasan pump bukannya sama aja akan kena udara terus (teroksidasi) ? Kalo pump kan ada salurannya, yg pasti terisi udara juga, langsung menghubungkan udara luar ke dalam cairan dalam botol pump tsb. Setau aku sih udara akan mengisi semua rongga yah...Koreksi dong kalo salah, Fisika ku dulu gak pinter soalnya hehehe...
Packaging yang tepat untuk antioksidan kayanya yang tube yah ? Kayak Paula Choice antioxidant serum ? Tapi dia tube nya gak bisa dilipet2 ujungnya (kayak sikat gigi kalo mau abis gitu). Aku sih sukanya tube yg dari timah gitu, dipencet dikit2 dari ujung terus kalo udah amblas yg diujung, dilipet2 itu ujung tube nya jadi tidak ato hanya sedikit menyisakan udara di dalam tube nya Hidden Content *emm...agak susah ya bok, ngejelasinnya*
Tapi gak bisa juga kita hindari udara sampe bener2 vakum (tidak ada udara) dalam kemasan antioxidant kita...me-minimalisir, mungkin. Makanya beli jgn segambreng, dikit2 aja (30ml udah cukup banyak kayaknya) dan cepet2 abisin...jangan disayang2 krn mahal hahaha Hidden Content *mengejek diri sendiri* Pernah baca dimanaaaa gitu, kandungan vit.C ato vit.A kalo shelf life udah lebih dari 6 bulan berkurang ntah berapa persen, shelf life lebih dari 1 taun, tinggal berapa persen...Maap persennya lupa. Aku cari2 dulu sumbernya yg bilang gini...perasaaan pernah baca Hidden ContentLast edited by bungajeruk; Jul 23, 2008 at 10:20 PM.
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Jul 24, 2008, 02:32 PM #45
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Re: Anti-Aging Skincare and Treatment
bungjer, ngerti kok soal tube timah dan tube pencet2 biasa Hidden Content
emang paling bagus itu yang tube timah kali ye? tapi paling messy tampangnya Hidden Content
soal pump, iya pump biasa masuk udara
tapi ada istilah airtight pump gitu
nah apakah maksutnya pump yang kayak HABA WL, yang bagian dasarnya yang naek kalo produknya berkurang, ato gimana, gue sendiri gak yakin sih
gue setuju tuh emang kalo mao menghindari udara 100% dari kosmetik sih susah bener ya kayaknya
meminimalisir seengganya sih
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